purplehazea
06-26 03:23 PM
1) This forum is for skilled legal immigrants
2) Any talk about illegal 'rights' and 'plight' is irrelevant to our discussion
3) Getting defensive about illegals or being offensive to any ethnic community is a sharp deviation from our proposed objectives at IV
4) If we do not have anything constructive to contribute while CIR dies, we should rather have constructive decisions about legal immigration bills or topics
5) Lets stay united and fight it out even though the chips may be down right now.
2) Any talk about illegal 'rights' and 'plight' is irrelevant to our discussion
3) Getting defensive about illegals or being offensive to any ethnic community is a sharp deviation from our proposed objectives at IV
4) If we do not have anything constructive to contribute while CIR dies, we should rather have constructive decisions about legal immigration bills or topics
5) Lets stay united and fight it out even though the chips may be down right now.
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hiUS
09-17 10:33 AM
Did any body received the card or case status changed to Card production ordered apart from GCEB2?
It seems there is progress only for GCEB2 for the gys who got the approval notice in August.
Mine:
8/12/08 - Appproval Notice email
8/18/08 - Approval Notice mail (post)
and nothing after that...
It seems there is progress only for GCEB2 for the gys who got the approval notice in August.
Mine:
8/12/08 - Appproval Notice email
8/18/08 - Approval Notice mail (post)
and nothing after that...
man-woman-and-gc
09-16 02:35 PM
Only 2 people stepped up today....
How are we going to reach 1000?
How are we going to reach 1000?
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dehradoon
10-08 05:45 PM
I applied for the first time in 2001, and then in 2005 (due to relocation) and ended up at the backlog center. Another relocation and now my PD is March 2007, and these recent wannabes want Perm approved in 1 month, I-140 premium processing in few days and then onto I-485 which should be current with no retrogression. Amen !! When do you want the USCIS to bend over for you?
:D ... couldn't stop laughing, the gov't should move the H1B quote to 250K/year and keep the GC to 140K/year, US will then get over a million people in the next 4 years.
forward looking scenario -
If nothing happens in the next 4 years then everyone who's here would still be here talking the same things as right now (with their bewildered hope of getting thru), the difference being all the 2005-2007 would also be old timers then, That would really change their perception.
Hey, this is just an opinion. nothing to debate on .... pure speculation. if you want me to give the full disclosure on forward looking scneario I can get that done but I'll have to rip it off some analysts comments :cool:
:D ... couldn't stop laughing, the gov't should move the H1B quote to 250K/year and keep the GC to 140K/year, US will then get over a million people in the next 4 years.
forward looking scenario -
If nothing happens in the next 4 years then everyone who's here would still be here talking the same things as right now (with their bewildered hope of getting thru), the difference being all the 2005-2007 would also be old timers then, That would really change their perception.
Hey, this is just an opinion. nothing to debate on .... pure speculation. if you want me to give the full disclosure on forward looking scneario I can get that done but I'll have to rip it off some analysts comments :cool:
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leoindiano
12-26 10:51 AM
Did your app go thru Texas-vermont-texas cycle? When did your app reached USCIS?
priderock
06-27 04:12 PM
I am really surprised that you guys are contemplating on going against your employer for a employment letter and filing your GC. I mean, how hard is it for you guys to agree to the terms of your employer that you will work till you get your GC and upto 6 months beyond that..
If you guys came before 2001-2002 and seen how the situation was for green card filers you will now what I am talking about..
1. There was no concurrent filing of I-140/485
2. There was no premium processing for Labor
3. There was no premium processing for I-140
4. There was no AC-21, so there is no way of switching jobs..
Still it used to take 4-5 years to get a GC.
And you guys are complaining about your employer because you worked for 1-2 years and you want to quit as soon as you get EAD..
Just imagine what would have happened if the dates were not CURRENT.. How many more years you would have worked, cursing USCIS
Your greed will ruin you in future, just like you are cursing your employer's greed..
Also, before you curse your employer, it was you who joined the company and you had many months to find out what kind of employer you have and it quit the company long time back.. You could have switched to different company long time back..
I agree , and if the cost of leaving this stupid employer is just $10K, I would gladly pay and have some peace of mind.
Also don't make decissions based on the current provisions/laws only. It is safe to assume you are going to be with your employer (who filed your GC) until you get your GC. You make a decision assuming that you can use AC21 after 6 months, but what happens if they remove AC21 in two months ??? People got burned when they assume status quo with the laws/provisions and they subsequently change.
If you guys came before 2001-2002 and seen how the situation was for green card filers you will now what I am talking about..
1. There was no concurrent filing of I-140/485
2. There was no premium processing for Labor
3. There was no premium processing for I-140
4. There was no AC-21, so there is no way of switching jobs..
Still it used to take 4-5 years to get a GC.
And you guys are complaining about your employer because you worked for 1-2 years and you want to quit as soon as you get EAD..
Just imagine what would have happened if the dates were not CURRENT.. How many more years you would have worked, cursing USCIS
Your greed will ruin you in future, just like you are cursing your employer's greed..
Also, before you curse your employer, it was you who joined the company and you had many months to find out what kind of employer you have and it quit the company long time back.. You could have switched to different company long time back..
I agree , and if the cost of leaving this stupid employer is just $10K, I would gladly pay and have some peace of mind.
Also don't make decissions based on the current provisions/laws only. It is safe to assume you are going to be with your employer (who filed your GC) until you get your GC. You make a decision assuming that you can use AC21 after 6 months, but what happens if they remove AC21 in two months ??? People got burned when they assume status quo with the laws/provisions and they subsequently change.
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SunnySurya
08-18 02:35 PM
That lawsuit Idea is still very much alive but not relevant to this. Plus that idea will take some time. I also don't beleive I had been unethical.
The bottomline, you would agree, the reason we all are lurking on this forum is to get our GC. I can assure you and the other core members of one thing, I will not do anything which is I beleive is unethical on not within the boundaries of the law.
The other day you spent the entire day answering every question(s) people had. I even told my wife that our good friend is going to take all our worries out pretty soon. EB2 will no longer going accept porting so we will go faster and then guess what you didn't even file the law suit yet....you let us down!!
I have a humble suggestion for you, please concentrate on your work and read some books on ethics and leave the GC processing to CIS.
The bottomline, you would agree, the reason we all are lurking on this forum is to get our GC. I can assure you and the other core members of one thing, I will not do anything which is I beleive is unethical on not within the boundaries of the law.
The other day you spent the entire day answering every question(s) people had. I even told my wife that our good friend is going to take all our worries out pretty soon. EB2 will no longer going accept porting so we will go faster and then guess what you didn't even file the law suit yet....you let us down!!
I have a humble suggestion for you, please concentrate on your work and read some books on ethics and leave the GC processing to CIS.
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07-20 08:42 AM
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PDOCT05
10-01 02:51 PM
Ship (P/U) date: Jul 2, 2007
Delivery date: Jul 3, 2007 9:03 AM
Sign for by: R.WILLIAM
No receipts, No checks cashed, jut nothing.
My attorney said that they would be following up on weekly basis and will be using the congressional liaison if they need to.
I am also in the same boat called USCIS today ...she asked me to call back in next monday or check daily for checks cashed or not.
Delivery date: Jul 3, 2007 9:03 AM
Sign for by: R.WILLIAM
No receipts, No checks cashed, jut nothing.
My attorney said that they would be following up on weekly basis and will be using the congressional liaison if they need to.
I am also in the same boat called USCIS today ...she asked me to call back in next monday or check daily for checks cashed or not.
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bikram_das_in
02-15 09:32 PM
Contributed $50. Paypal transaction #3A099284SR453325N.
I am pledging another $50 which I will contribute 1st week of March.
I am pledging another $50 which I will contribute 1st week of March.
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pappu
02-14 04:32 PM
Thank you everyone that contributed till now.
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skillet
05-24 02:11 PM
Will call the other committee members
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abracadabra
07-06 09:15 PM
We are 33 people ready just you all should say GO. I can make a congregation 100 easily
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imneedy
08-30 08:36 AM
Ha ha Congrats....
Story of my life. I complain about delay with my application. Someone joins me and tells me they are in the same boat and the very next day that someone leaves the boat and jumps into "greener" pastures. Everyone is leaving the boat and I seem to be left out :(
Who else are in my boat? (Application with an officer for over 2 weeks and still status = "Initial Review")
me too in same boat. :) In my case USCIS have wrong priority date on my case. On their records it somehow shows Jan 2006, while it should be Jul 2003. I have tried to get it resolved but they haven't done anything about it [had tried Ombudsman (7001), Senator, congressman, SR etc]. Funny thing is even the incorrect priority date is current now. And still waiting for GC for over a month :mad:
Story of my life. I complain about delay with my application. Someone joins me and tells me they are in the same boat and the very next day that someone leaves the boat and jumps into "greener" pastures. Everyone is leaving the boat and I seem to be left out :(
Who else are in my boat? (Application with an officer for over 2 weeks and still status = "Initial Review")
me too in same boat. :) In my case USCIS have wrong priority date on my case. On their records it somehow shows Jan 2006, while it should be Jul 2003. I have tried to get it resolved but they haven't done anything about it [had tried Ombudsman (7001), Senator, congressman, SR etc]. Funny thing is even the incorrect priority date is current now. And still waiting for GC for over a month :mad:
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anilsal
08-13 05:36 PM
It is a hard fact but I guess I do not want to scare anyone. If you notice some people have got their JuLY 2ND filed cases receipt # and most of them have a Notice date of 08/04/2007 (the guys who got their receipt #). This notice date is the day the Receipt was generated. So today is 08/13/2007. It seems that USCIS is delaying this process of issuing receipts as that will give them a chance to reject applications after 17th. So I guess we should brace ourselves for rejection notices also......
Keep your chin up, guys. You have to understand that there must have been a large number of applications arriving in the USCIS basket. Things will take time - so will the receipts. Do not lose hope.
Why worry about things for which you have no control on? You certainly can control your actions. Maybe contribute to IV in money, time etc PLUS also show up at the rally and sign up a bunch of your friends. Action is the only solution to Worry. :)
Keep your chin up, guys. You have to understand that there must have been a large number of applications arriving in the USCIS basket. Things will take time - so will the receipts. Do not lose hope.
Why worry about things for which you have no control on? You certainly can control your actions. Maybe contribute to IV in money, time etc PLUS also show up at the rally and sign up a bunch of your friends. Action is the only solution to Worry. :)
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bsnf
07-07 12:02 PM
DC is the right place even on a weekend also just protesting infront of the uscis office will get media attention .....we should plan for this.i know less than 1000 people will be a failure ..can we try to get the mood of the IV for this kind of event ...
I live in Raleigh, NC and am willing to come to DC. I will try and check if any of my friends are interested.
I live in Raleigh, NC and am willing to come to DC. I will try and check if any of my friends are interested.
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02-18 06:57 PM
for FP for myself. Dependents did month ago....
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reddymjm
05-05 04:24 PM
The guy Affirmatively said "It will be June 2002" and gave me red because the dates i gave were behind , Ithought it was funny because we are all playing the prediction game.....
I am thinking if I should i start a game to predict the dates, and who ever gets closest date will get few greens..... ;)
:D
What is ur PD? My prediction is by end of 2008 EB3 will touch 2003.
I am thinking if I should i start a game to predict the dates, and who ever gets closest date will get few greens..... ;)
:D
What is ur PD? My prediction is by end of 2008 EB3 will touch 2003.
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gjoe
10-08 03:46 PM
A rich man had a bunch of horses and donkeys. He used some to carry the load and some he tried to breed for participating in races. He was trying something but not very effeciently.
When we have a mix of people like in this forum, you will see different people, different thoughts, ideas and talent. A leader with patience can put to use more than 90% of the resources (members), if he knows what he/she is doing. No matter how many times you ask some will never go to rallies, some will never participate in state chapters, some will never contribute money, etc. Trying to get everybody to do the same thing is never going to work. Please don't mistake me or take offence. All that I am saying is "Horse should be for races and donkeys should be for carrying the load" In no way the donkey is inferior to the horse or vice versa.
BTW I work for the goverment and I know a little bit more than what you know about it. I am not saying this to belittle you but just mentioning my opinion
Firstly, no one can shut down thoughts. They are inside your head. What I am saying is that match your thoughts with your actions, not just expression of thoughts. If you want to express your ideas and thoughts, do it in a way that its heard by people that matter. Your ideas and thoughts heard by other people like you is meaningless. If you can match ACTIONS to propogate your thoughts, by hauling your ass to Washington DC, spending some $$ out of pocket on travel to DC and meeting with a few of the 535 offices, then it matters. Otherwise your idea is not worth 2 cents sitting on forums read by people who are not legislators.
Secondly, YOU THINK that asking USCIS to follow the rules is easier than changing rules (thru legislation). That's because , you and many others like you, think of Government function as if its an IT project. Occupational hazard. That is not how the Government works. The reason they dont follow the rules is because they (1) dont care and (2) are not accountable. USCIS and its non-FIFO procedures, FBI namecheck delays, backlogs in receipting and adjudication of 140 (Atlanta PERM) etc is something that congress cannot fix. USCIS, FBI report to DHS and DOJ respectively and they in turn, report to the White House. Congress can rarely make them work better and make them answer for mistakes, as congress can only do "Oversight" hearings on them. Haul an agency or department head in front of a committee and ask questions (pre submitted). And ask them questions. Make some show on CSPAN. At the end of the day, if Administration tell congress - "GET LOST, mind your own business, this is the best we can do and we are doing it", then congress cannot do anything. Other than impeaching someone. No one is going to impeach Mike Chertoff because one of his agencies (USCIS) is not doing FIFO on something called 485 (which no one in DC knows what it is).
Congressional input rarely works. Example: Intervention of Congress during July bulletin. You know why? Because Congress HAD TO DO IT because of the uproar. I dont see any uproar and your issues like "there is no FIFO", "My PERM is stuck in Atlant for 6 months", or "I am stuck in namecheck for 4 years".
These things need lobbying the Administration. Lobbying the administration is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT and EXPENSIVE than lobbying congress. Why? Because each office of Congress has a boss that faces elections very often. Every 2 years in House and every 6 years in the Senate. Plus they have 535 offices (435 in House, 100 in senate). That means easier access. On the other hand, there is only one office heading USCIS, office of Emelio Gonzalez, and only one Michael Chertoff and only one DOJ and its FBI. So the access of more difficult and lobbying is more expensive.
When it comes to administration, you have limited leverage. Other than 2 people in the entire administration, no one is getting job by elections. The only 2 positions in this branch of Government that are elected and directly accountable to people are President and Vice President. Mike Chertoff of DHS or Emelio Gonzalez of USCIS wont lose next election coz those are on appointed positions not elected positions. Which also means that they dont have to worry about making people angry.
So you see, ASKING for good things like FIFO and Faster namecheck is great in theory. But please understand, from a civic lession viewpoint, the 3 branches of government viewpoint and then make suggestions.
Is Immigration Voice an organization that can raise 100,000 a month each month? NO. Not right now. Right now, people are busy checking their mailboxes for EAD cards. Out of 23,000 registered members, if each contribute $5 a month (equivalent to a burger, fries and coke), it is 100,000 a month. But it wont happen.
So until that happens, feel free to express your thoughts and opinions and brilliant ideas and happy forum discussion. If that's what makes you all happy and content.
When we have a mix of people like in this forum, you will see different people, different thoughts, ideas and talent. A leader with patience can put to use more than 90% of the resources (members), if he knows what he/she is doing. No matter how many times you ask some will never go to rallies, some will never participate in state chapters, some will never contribute money, etc. Trying to get everybody to do the same thing is never going to work. Please don't mistake me or take offence. All that I am saying is "Horse should be for races and donkeys should be for carrying the load" In no way the donkey is inferior to the horse or vice versa.
BTW I work for the goverment and I know a little bit more than what you know about it. I am not saying this to belittle you but just mentioning my opinion
Firstly, no one can shut down thoughts. They are inside your head. What I am saying is that match your thoughts with your actions, not just expression of thoughts. If you want to express your ideas and thoughts, do it in a way that its heard by people that matter. Your ideas and thoughts heard by other people like you is meaningless. If you can match ACTIONS to propogate your thoughts, by hauling your ass to Washington DC, spending some $$ out of pocket on travel to DC and meeting with a few of the 535 offices, then it matters. Otherwise your idea is not worth 2 cents sitting on forums read by people who are not legislators.
Secondly, YOU THINK that asking USCIS to follow the rules is easier than changing rules (thru legislation). That's because , you and many others like you, think of Government function as if its an IT project. Occupational hazard. That is not how the Government works. The reason they dont follow the rules is because they (1) dont care and (2) are not accountable. USCIS and its non-FIFO procedures, FBI namecheck delays, backlogs in receipting and adjudication of 140 (Atlanta PERM) etc is something that congress cannot fix. USCIS, FBI report to DHS and DOJ respectively and they in turn, report to the White House. Congress can rarely make them work better and make them answer for mistakes, as congress can only do "Oversight" hearings on them. Haul an agency or department head in front of a committee and ask questions (pre submitted). And ask them questions. Make some show on CSPAN. At the end of the day, if Administration tell congress - "GET LOST, mind your own business, this is the best we can do and we are doing it", then congress cannot do anything. Other than impeaching someone. No one is going to impeach Mike Chertoff because one of his agencies (USCIS) is not doing FIFO on something called 485 (which no one in DC knows what it is).
Congressional input rarely works. Example: Intervention of Congress during July bulletin. You know why? Because Congress HAD TO DO IT because of the uproar. I dont see any uproar and your issues like "there is no FIFO", "My PERM is stuck in Atlant for 6 months", or "I am stuck in namecheck for 4 years".
These things need lobbying the Administration. Lobbying the administration is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT and EXPENSIVE than lobbying congress. Why? Because each office of Congress has a boss that faces elections very often. Every 2 years in House and every 6 years in the Senate. Plus they have 535 offices (435 in House, 100 in senate). That means easier access. On the other hand, there is only one office heading USCIS, office of Emelio Gonzalez, and only one Michael Chertoff and only one DOJ and its FBI. So the access of more difficult and lobbying is more expensive.
When it comes to administration, you have limited leverage. Other than 2 people in the entire administration, no one is getting job by elections. The only 2 positions in this branch of Government that are elected and directly accountable to people are President and Vice President. Mike Chertoff of DHS or Emelio Gonzalez of USCIS wont lose next election coz those are on appointed positions not elected positions. Which also means that they dont have to worry about making people angry.
So you see, ASKING for good things like FIFO and Faster namecheck is great in theory. But please understand, from a civic lession viewpoint, the 3 branches of government viewpoint and then make suggestions.
Is Immigration Voice an organization that can raise 100,000 a month each month? NO. Not right now. Right now, people are busy checking their mailboxes for EAD cards. Out of 23,000 registered members, if each contribute $5 a month (equivalent to a burger, fries and coke), it is 100,000 a month. But it wont happen.
So until that happens, feel free to express your thoughts and opinions and brilliant ideas and happy forum discussion. If that's what makes you all happy and content.
WaldenPond
06-28 08:36 PM
Hello pappu,
That is an excellent find. Maybe we could work through this lead. We will contact Dr. Woo and Rajen Anand. Thanks a lot for the excellent research.
WaldenPond
This is a good idea.
http://www.80-20initiative.net/intouch.htm
http://www.80-20initiative.net/BoDSC.html
There is also one Rajen Anand as its director.
Rajen Anand (Southern California)
Currently serving as a Professor of Physiology at the California State University, Long Beach, Dr. Anand was head of the USDA Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion in Washington DC, 1995-2001.
Long involved in public policy issues and community affairs, Dr. Anand has served as an officer / Board member of: 80-20 Initiative, Asian and Pacific Americans in Higher Education (vice president); National Federation of Indian American Associations (president-elect); Indo-American Political Association (chair); Asian American and Pacific Islander Caucus (vice chair and chair) in California, and many others.
Dr. Anand was appointed in 1994, and reappointed in 1997 and 2000, to serve on the 11-member National Committee on Foreign Medical Education and Accreditation.
That is an excellent find. Maybe we could work through this lead. We will contact Dr. Woo and Rajen Anand. Thanks a lot for the excellent research.
WaldenPond
This is a good idea.
http://www.80-20initiative.net/intouch.htm
http://www.80-20initiative.net/BoDSC.html
There is also one Rajen Anand as its director.
Rajen Anand (Southern California)
Currently serving as a Professor of Physiology at the California State University, Long Beach, Dr. Anand was head of the USDA Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion in Washington DC, 1995-2001.
Long involved in public policy issues and community affairs, Dr. Anand has served as an officer / Board member of: 80-20 Initiative, Asian and Pacific Americans in Higher Education (vice president); National Federation of Indian American Associations (president-elect); Indo-American Political Association (chair); Asian American and Pacific Islander Caucus (vice chair and chair) in California, and many others.
Dr. Anand was appointed in 1994, and reappointed in 1997 and 2000, to serve on the 11-member National Committee on Foreign Medical Education and Accreditation.
gcbikari
04-24 11:44 AM
Another silent deshi employer here trying to scar H1s not to sue. I guess he created his ID (Join Date: Apr 2008) just for this.
Go and create another website in favour of deshi blood su&^%$rs called reverse-IV.org. Don't try to mock here.
Oh Boy. What I wanted to know was if attorney is willing to work on contigency basis (couldn't get that word right), then we can risk. I wish I was a desi employer. I know in a chaos situation everyone is a suspect. I didn't give more accurate info in my profile because, i know some of my colleagues spy for my employer. I am in my 9th year on h1 and still struggling. though i said example of my friend, i personally paid 350 to a labor attorney last week to evaluate my non-compete. no matter who says what, i again repeat u either have to spend money and or loose job if you violate. ofcourse each case is different and has to be reviewed.
BTW I believe H1 issue and non-compete are different. I think (y)our desperate situation and anger on h1b process is leading to this reply. but non-compete comes under labor and employment.
Go and create another website in favour of deshi blood su&^%$rs called reverse-IV.org. Don't try to mock here.
Oh Boy. What I wanted to know was if attorney is willing to work on contigency basis (couldn't get that word right), then we can risk. I wish I was a desi employer. I know in a chaos situation everyone is a suspect. I didn't give more accurate info in my profile because, i know some of my colleagues spy for my employer. I am in my 9th year on h1 and still struggling. though i said example of my friend, i personally paid 350 to a labor attorney last week to evaluate my non-compete. no matter who says what, i again repeat u either have to spend money and or loose job if you violate. ofcourse each case is different and has to be reviewed.
BTW I believe H1 issue and non-compete are different. I think (y)our desperate situation and anger on h1b process is leading to this reply. but non-compete comes under labor and employment.
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